THE FAMILY OF MATTHEW OTTER - NOTTINGHAMSHIRE

I am confident that MATTHEW and ANN are my wife's great great great great grandparents (gx4). It places them both at Bulwell at the turn of the nineteenth century.  However, I am very confident that they can be traced even further back due to their longevity. The same 1851 census (see above) shows a MATTHEW and ANN OTTER living next door to WILLIAM and ELISABETH OTTER on the Nottingham Road in Hucknall Torkard (HO 107/2127entry 149). They just have to be WILLIAM's parents  

SURNAME

Age

Rel Occupation Place of Birth
Matthew OTTER 64 Head Farm Worker Papplewick Nottinghamshire 
Ann OTTER 65 Wife Farm Worker Willoughby Nottinghamshire 

Papplewick, MATHEW'S place of birth, is a village just a few miles from Hucknall Torkard. Checking the IGI Index, I then found the following entry

MATTHEW OTTER - Christening: 12 MAR 1787 Papplewick, Nottingham, England
Parents: Father: MATTHEW OTTER Mother: SARAH SEAGRAVE

Source Information: Film Number: 537999 Reference number: 89290

The same index also showed details of MATTHEW's marriage and ANN's christening

MATTHEW OTTER Marriage: Spouse: ANN GOODBAND - 09 NOV 1807 Bulwell, Nottingham, England
Source Information: Batch Number: 7105639 Sheet:24 Source Call No: 1235167.

ANN GOODBAND Christening: 12 FEB 1786 Willoughby On The Wolds, Nottingham, England
Parents: Father: JOHN GOODBAND Mother: ANN
Source Information: Batch No.: C054232 Dates:1627 - 1812 Source Call No.: 0504056 IT 2 Film NONE.

The information from the IGI Index also meant that I had indentified MY WIFE'S GRANDPARENTS X 5

- MATTHEW and SARAH OTTER, and JOHN and ANN GOODBAND. A further search revealed both their marriages 

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0

MATTHEW OTTER Marriages: Spouse: SARAH SEAGRAVE Marriage: 08 AUGUST 1781 Saint Mary, Nottingham, Nottingham, England
Source Information: Batch No.: M044871 Dates:  1756 - 1785 Source Call No.:  0503799 Film NONE Sheet: 00 

JOHN GOODBAND Marriage: Spouse: ANN PATCHITT 22 AUG 1769 Willoughby On The Wolds, Nottingham, England
Source Information: Batch No.: M054232 Dates: 1627 - 1812 Source Call No.: 0504056 IT 2 Type: Film

There is a christening on 10 MAY 1752 in  Willoughby On The Wolds, Nottingham, England for an ANN PATCHIT, the daughter of ROBERT and ELIZABETH PATCHIT. But there is also a christening in the same village "about 1748" for an ANN PATCHETT who married a JONATHAN GOODACRE five days after JOHN and ANN got married in Willoughby On The Wolds (27 AUGUST 1769).

There is a record of the marriage

ROBERT PATCHETT Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH LISTER 19 FEB 1739 Willoughby On The Wolds, Nottingham, England
Source Information: Batch No.: M054232 Dates: 1627 - 1812 Source Call No.: 0504056 IT 2 Film NONE

But the problem is the spelling - PATCHIT (with or without the extra T) has become PATCHETT. It is an area of uncertainty which I believe can only be resolved by viewing the original registers. To date I can find no trace of JOHN GOODBAND'S christening.

MATTHEW and SARAH OTTER are more well documented

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch International Genealogical Index v5.0
MATTHEW OTTER Christening: 10 OCT 1762 Hucknall-Torkard, , Nottingham, England
Death:  - Burial: 14 MAR 1826
Parents: Father: MATTHEW OTTER Mother: MARY WILMONT
Marriages: Spouse: SARAH SEAGRAVE Marriage: 08 AUGUST 1781 Source Information: Film Number: 538456

MATTHEW and MARY are MY WIFE'S GRANDPARENTS X 6

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
MATTHEW OTTER Christening: 1731 Hucknall, , Nottingham, England
Death: - Burial: 29 OCT 1809
Marriages: Spouse: MARY WILMONT Marriage: 25 MAY 1760 Hucknall, , Nottingham, England
Source Information: Film Number: 456885

NB there may have been an earlier marriage to a MARY GREEN on 23rd OCTOBER 1757 in Hucknall Torkard.

The years before MATTHEW'S christening in 1731 are vague. The IGI gives the following information

"Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter. No source information is available."

Nevertheless it gives MATTHEW'S PARENTS as being WILLIAM OTTER and LYDIA HERRARD, the daughter of GEORGE HERRARD and LYDIA WOODCOCKE who was born in Southwell, Nottinghamshire on 19 APRIL 1694. The marriage of GEORGE and LYDIA is given as "about 1693" in Southwell. GEORGE HERRARD's birth is given as "about 1670" in the same town. If correct WILLIAM OTTER and LYDIA OTTER nee HERRARD are MY WIFE'S GRANDPARENTS X 6 and GEORGE and LYDIA HERRARD nee WOODCOCKE,  MY WIFE'S GRANDPARENTS X 7

LYDIA was born at the same time and place  as her future husband but the record states that her parents were JOHN and GRACE WOODCOCKE who were married about 1669. JOHN was born about 1650 and GRACE about 1654 in Southwell.

JOHN and GRACE WOODCOCKE of Southwell, Nottingham would be MY WIFE'S GRANDPARENTS X 8.

 
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